Heroes such as: Axe, Centaur Warrunner, Doom. Heroes that can stop Faceless Void from leaping around the fight and controlling its outcome are very strong against him. ![]() Nether Swap can save an ally from the Chronosphere.But they desperately need to address the griefing. Valve is at least trying to address the cheating, in the last month about 40 pro players were banned and they did the ban-hammer on 40k casual players for scripts. Griefing is way more common than 1-2% of games, and my own feeling is that it actually gets worse in divine and immortal because players think they’re the best on their team. Its worth noting I have 10k behavior score. I didn’t even keep track of how many games I won because an enemy player griefed, nor did I keep track of ‘soft griefs’ things like your mid OD building skull basher, p5 CM’s that just jungle the entire laning phase, players that refuse to teamfight because they’re mad, etc. It’s not 1-2%, and it doesn’t just happen at low mmr, I was in 4.2-4.5k the entire time-my team had someone who ‘hard griefed’ us aka breaking items, afk, intentional feeding nonstop down a lane, following around a teammate until we lose, etc, in 38 games. I used to play A LOT, and I was debating leaving the game, so I tracked 100 games in a row to see how many had a griefer. That being said, griefing is absolutely rampant in the game over the last 6 months. I couldn’t agree more that you should just accept the challenge, report them and move on. I’ve pretty much all but quit playing dota because of cheating and griefing. I would say just accept that the game will be hard and do what you feel like you want to do. I am not a statistician BTW.Įncouraging the behavior of griefers is not ideal, but if you report them and move on to the next game, the chance you will play on the same team as them again is already quite low. They will only account for maybe +-100 MMR in my opinion because the other team may have griefers too. You can switch to support if all you really care about is winning, but in the long term lost games to griefers will maybe be 1-2% of all your lost games ever if even that much. That is the WORST thing you can do because you end up wasting your own time more than anything else. PLEASE keep in mind that I am not advocating that you give up or start feeding in response. ![]() Obviously, the situation where you have another hero actively trying to steal your CS isn't a 1 to 1 correlation, but that doesn't mean there aren't things to learn. Alternatively you could play your standard pos 1 hero and try to learn how to play when your lane is really bad or you are really pressed for CS because of a hard matchup. These kinds of games can honestly be a fantastic way to test some ideas that you have for certain heroes, and see how they work. If we lose, ah well game was lost anyway go next these things happen etc. I also try to win, but I decouple my negative emotions from the game completely. Obviously, I don't try to provoke or tilt the griefer or the rest of my team. ![]() With regards to what you should do, my attitude when I encounter someone who is griefing minute 0 (and this 100% is a grief) is to assume that the game is going to be very difficult to win, and play for fun. Outside of situations where your behavior score is very low, this kind of thing is quite rare as your MMR increases. If you are better (whether more skillful or more cooperative with your reasonable teammates), over time anomalies like this will not be able to stop you from gaining MMR. They lack the skills needed to succeed in a game like this. Those kinds of people eventually lose more games than they win.
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